Sheng Peng: George McPhee Explains Ryan Reaves Trade Full transcript of George McPhee's press conference

I don't like it. Why they felt the need for a goon on this team is beyond me. It goes against everything this team has done this season. This is the new NHL you don't need players like this anymore. They're become extinct for a reason.

I'm sure he's a great human being and a great "locker room" guy but he's not just not a good enough hockey player to see the ice on this team at least. I'm hoping when everyone's is healthy he's the designated healthy scratch.

No way he should see the ice before Carrier, Nosek, Lindberg, Leipsic, or even Hyka. I have a feeling he'll get in games ahead of Lindberg (who it's obvious Turk isn't that happy with) and probably even Leipsic. The story being because "he fits" the fourth line better than either of those two. The whole Kelly connection will help him out of course.

Unnecessary move.

I don't like it. Why they felt the need for a goon on this team is beyond me. It goes against everything this team has done this season. This is the new NHL you don't need players like this anymore. They're become extinct for a reason.

I'm sure he's a great human being and a great "locker room" guy but he's not just not a good enough hockey player to see the ice on this team at least. I'm hoping when everyone's is healthy he's the designated healthy scratch.

No way he should see the ice before Carrier, Nosek, Lindberg, Leipsic, or even Hyka. I have a feeling he'll get in games ahead of Lindberg (who it's obvious Turk isn't that happy with) and probably even Leipsic. The story being because "he fits" the fourth line better than either of those two. The whole Kelly connection will help him out of course.

Unnecessary move.
- Yosimar89

You've been reading Wilsons blogs!

Reaves can play, it cost you next to nothing - no idea how Lindberg will turn out (I hope he's a stud ), you've created a position where another GM may feel he was helped & its cost you cap space which you weren't going to use. No idea what you are worried about - oh, & Reaves hits hard, something I haven't seen in the Vegas team although I haven't seen a lot of your games in fact I've seen very little.

I don't like it. Why they felt the need for a goon on this team is beyond me. It goes against everything this team has done this season. This is the new NHL you don't need players like this anymore. They're become extinct for a reason.

I'm sure he's a great human being and a great "locker room" guy but he's not just not a good enough hockey player to see the ice on this team at least. I'm hoping when everyone's is healthy he's the designated healthy scratch.

No way he should see the ice before Carrier, Nosek, Lindberg, Leipsic, or even Hyka. I have a feeling he'll get in games ahead of Lindberg (who it's obvious Turk isn't that happy with) and probably even Leipsic. The story being because "he fits" the fourth line better than either of those two. The whole Kelly connection will help him out of course.

Unnecessary move.
- Yosimar89

Agreed! First Bettman fixes a lottery for Pit, now he forces a trade to help out his "pet" team.

Agreed! First Bettman fixes a lottery for Pit, now he forces a trade to help out his "pet" team.
- powerenforcer

True, word is that the Pittsburgh management didn't even want Brassard but Bettman forced the trade. Bettman is now working on a trade to get Karlson on the Pens too.

Reaves is more then just a goon. He's a depth player with a physical edge, someone who could really pay off in the playoffs. If not, sit him.. he is a UFA at seasons end.

Would anyone be really hurt if he passed Leipsic on the depth chart? I was excited for him as a prospect and a little upset when the Leafs lost him in the expansion draft, but his stats don't look like that of an NHL ready player.

Agreed! First Bettman fixes a lottery for Pit, now he forces a trade to help out his "pet" team.
- powerenforcer

https://jetsnation.ca/201...he-jets-getting-brassard/

Shady business by the NHL favored Pens and now LVK. If not league sanctioned the NHL at least "looked the other way" to assist the Pens circumventing the cap and the LVK blocking the Jets from acquiring Brassard. Hoping the Pens & LVK get upset in the first round. Probably won't happen Karma would be be sweet.

Shady Business by Vegas, maybe..... If anything the NHL didn't "look the other way" and they made the teams work out the deal in the correct procedure so that Vegas could legally retain salary

Bottom Line: Vegas didn't want a competitor in the West getting better so it helped facilitate a trade to a team in the East

Keep crying though, your tears are delicious

Agreed! First Bettman fixes a lottery for Pit, now he forces a trade to help out his "pet" team.
- powerenforcer

Hey! - how things going in Chi-town with the Toews, Seebs and Kane contracts?

Cap trouble can't be that bad can it? Toews is the best leader in teh world!

Shady Business by Vegas, maybe..... If anything the NHL didn't "look the other way" and they made the teams work out the deal in the correct procedure so that Vegas could legally retain salary

Bottom Line: Vegas didn't want a competitor in the West getting better so it helped facilitate a trade to a team in the East

Keep crying though, your tears are delicious
- TheGame316

Oh so you are saying the NHL actually facilitated the shady business 3 way trade and did not merely look the other way? No tears. You won, we lost. The reasons and exploited loopholes don't matter now.

As an outsider, I like this move by Vegas. They added another draft pick and picked up a 4th line guy who can contribute and has a decent amount of playoff experience.

Not all GM's are scrubs. Creative minds make deals like this happen. A lot of moving parts here.

Good move. For $2 million dollars and a prospect that’s been traded 3x now already, you get a 4th and a depth player.

I’m not sure Reaves even plays that often, but he is nice depth.

"Not all GM's are scrubs. Creative minds make deals like this happen. A lot of moving parts here."

From my perspective, you nailed it! Complainers, whiners and excuse makers only think inside a very limited box, those that can think outside the box make things happen. Its like being a leader and not a follower, weak minds follow, a creative mind will always find a way.

https://jetsnation.ca/2018/02/23/did-vegas-just-run-interference-on-the-jets-getting-brassard/

Shady business by the NHL favored Pens and now LVK. If not league sanctioned the NHL at least "looked the other way" to assist the Pens circumventing the cap and the LVK blocking the Jets from acquiring Brassard. Hoping the Pens & LVK get upset in the first round. Probably won't happen Karma would be be sweet.
- ricroc

Please prove how this is cap circumvention. A max of 50% can be retained; the Pens are still on the hook for 60% of his salary.

Your argument = Fail

(and I don't even need to get into how you feel the Jets got robbed since a rival didn't want you to get better ---> thats called life)

Good move. For $2 million dollars and a prospect that’s been traded 3x now already, you get a 4th and a depth player.

I’m not sure Reaves even plays that often, but he is nice depth.
- markyjoe

5-7 mins/game on average with around 10 shifts. He will be seeing the press box a lot in the playoffs. Sometimes he has a fire lit under him and delivers a highlight worthy hit.

I see it's SNOWING!? in LAS Vegas today.

What else can this team do?

Las Vegas, Pittsburgh Penguins of the west. MAF, Neal, Perron, Engelland, Reaves

Please prove how this is cap circumvention. A max of 50% can be retained; the Pens are still on the hook for 60% of his salary.

Your argument = Fail

(and I don't even need to get into how you feel the Jets got robbed since a rival didn't want you to get better ---> thats called life)
- DeflatedPucks

The trade was entirely legal. I opine it's no good for the game if the league facilitates trades to selected teams. I fear the NHL will turn into a David Stern run NBA where only 5-6 teams won championships over 30 years.

The trade was entirely legal. I opine it's no good for the game if the league facilitates trades to selected teams. I fear the NHL will turn into a David Stern run NBA where only 5-6 teams won championships over 30 years.
- ricroc

David Stern's NBA, now that you bring that up, prob had a legitimate problem. Besides a blatant refereeing consipiracy, the league actively stopped trades from happening (re: CP3 to LAL). That was a slippery slope b/c the league literally (for all intents and purposes) owned that Big Easy team, creating an obvious conlfict of interest. Obviously NBA is even more (frank)ed when the idea of a luxury cap comes into play, effectively rendering the salary cap obsolete, but thats another story...

The NHL is similar to the NBA in that 5-6 teams have won, but for different reasons. NHL has a hard cap, the NBA does not. Parity exists to a much greater degree than the in the NBA. With no Bird, Durant or any other mammal rules, there is less restriction on the player movement in the NHL.

I'm just not sure how you can claim the league facilitated trades to select teams.

Sounds like this was move was about cock blocking Winnipeg as much as acquiring Reaves+4th

McPhee is a sneaky bastard

Sounds like this was move was about cock blocking Winnipeg as much as acquiring Reaves+4th

McPhee is a sneaky bastard
- Nucker101

The reality is McPhee traded for a Friend in Rutherford, in exchange for a new enemy in Cheveldayov

David Stern's NBA, now that you bring that up, prob had a legitimate problem. Besides a blatant refereeing consipiracy, the league actively stopped trades from happening (re: CP3 to LAL). That was a slippery slope b/c the league literally (for all intents and purposes) owned that Big Easy team, creating an obvious conlfict of interest. Obviously NBA is even more (frank)ed when the idea of a luxury cap comes into play, effectively rendering the salary cap obsolete, but thats another story...

The NHL is similar to the NBA in that 5-6 teams have won, but for different reasons. NHL has a hard cap, the NBA does not. Parity exists to a much greater degree than the in the NBA. With no Bird, Durant or any other mammal rules, there is less restriction on the player movement in the NHL.


- DeflatedPucks

I'm just not sure how you can claim the league facilitated trades to select teams.[/quote

] The trade and the league actions/in actions allowing/facilitating exploitation of legal loopholes within the letter of the law but not in the spirit of the salary cap allow player movement to favored chosen selected teams. The trade speaks for itself and IMHO it is no good for the game.